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Subject: GEM List
Subject: Re: Gem List
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 94 19:09 EST
From: "Daniel J. Hollis" <0006795560@mcimail.com>
To: ems <gem-list@world.std.com>
Subject: GEM List
Message-Id: <72940801000927/0006795560PK2EM@mcimail.com>
Precedence: bulk
Subject: Re: Gem List
Anonymous again:
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> I do not have a copy of XAES. I heard about a wordprocessor or something
> for the Atari that would pop up a menu when you clicked on the closer.
You were talking like you have it.
> And BTW, I am STRONGLY against replacing the standard window gagets.
Then don't use our library. Like I said though, you can switch the custom
windows on or off if you wish.
> I haven't taken the time to figure out WF_BEVENT. I will soon for the
> sake of knowing it, but so far I don't seem to need it which is just
> great by me because not everyone will be running an OS with WF_BEVENT.
Because you're too lazy, obviously. WF_BEVENT is a piece of cake to learn,
and if you can't take the simple 5 minutes of any day to figure out how to
do it, then I wonder about your credibility as a GEM coder. Ask ANYONE on
here how they feel about WF_BEVENT. They will tell you they love it.
(Except you of course.)
> I understand now. Do you then do 3-d gagets on all windows even on older
> TOS versions? This WOULD be a benefit.
Yes. I do 5 3D drawing styles, in fact, and you can choose them on the fly.
In fact, this is one of the FIRST things we did in XAES.
> I'm not lazy... just practical. Before I write code, I will often sit
> down and work the whole thing out in my mind or on paper before I begin.
Just like you did with WF_BEVENT?
> I go for the most ellegant approach. The most ellegant isn't necessarily
> the most efficient, code-wise, but it takes the least time for me, is
> often smaller, requires less typing, and is far less bug-prone.
The "most elegant" to me sounds like "the laziest". I.e. put the least amount
of effort in doing something. If you're going to do something, why not spend
the time doing it RIGHT? Rather than a half-hearted attempt at doing the bare
minimum?
> Parcing ASCII is not my most favorite thing to do. I can do it, but I
> don't think it's very enjoyable. Therefore, I'm a bit more likely to not
> do it too well, due to lack of experience. (not that I wouldn't TRY,
> though.) Whatever is required to parce this file and deal with it WILL
> be included in my library in some form or other, so don't worry about it.
Parsing ASCII is simple! Besides the fact that once the APP_DEFS standard
gets finished, people can write support into their libraries for it -- so
that the programmer doesn't have to parse the APP_DEFS file, he will have
pre-written routines in the library to do it for him.
I'm not worrying about any parsing of files or any code on your part. I have
requested that this be done, and someone code it and post it in "Pseudo code"
or in C code so everyone can use it. Hopefully, we'll have it posted in
English, and not in German... @_@
-- Ken Hollis (Bitgate Software)